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1 year 2 months ago - 1 year 2 months ago #346118 by btrautman
I am almost finished with rebuilding the rear end on my 1987 560SL.  Some aspects of this rebuild have been most difficult to get repair procedures.  I purchased the factory 2 volume chassis workshop procedures and this manual entirely skips discussing the rear trailing arms removal and rebuild.  I tried subscribing to startek but they removed me when they determined I was not a repair shop.  For instance in the following diagram:

photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPPdsrFy7U2...l57ROjvRQetL7Noow41e
What is the torque for item 41 which is the nut?  I need specific torque specs for rear differential, rear sway bar, etc.  Rebuild included removing pinion shaft to replace seal and properly pre tensioning reinstall.  As I mentioned I am almost finished...  Also, if you can point me to where I can purchase complete workshop information, I would be eternally grateful.

photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMHXZXDHebP...CbmgpvDjVkcHyV7A096K

photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOEXmDWOI5K...o47eQK0dEFfp-RBXYMx4

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Bob
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1 year 2 months ago #346121 by Obelix116
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…and whats your name ?!?

It woud be very nice if you could introduce you a Little bit at first!
 

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1 year 2 months ago #346127 by btrautman
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Sure! My name is Bob Trautman from Texas. Purchased my 560sl approximately 7 years ago. Have been making steady repairs over the years. First major repair was when I changed my oil and I found this strange wire ground to the chassis. After reviewing electrical diagrams, I identified it as the oil level sensor connector. Now why in the world would someone ground this connector? I corrected the situation and plugged the oil level sensor back into the connector. 1 minute later I had a check engine light on. Eventually figured out the oil level sensor was defective. No problem, I will just replace it! I then learned I had to drop the oil pan....which required dropping the front subframe........Thus began my forray into the R107...... My biggest frustration with this car is german documentation regarding workshop repair procedures.........

For instance I own the two volume set of R107 chassis repair procedures. Nowhere in this 2 volume set does it address rear-end components such as R&R hub, trailing arm R&R, etc.......

SLSHOP has been most helpful in being able to source parts that are not available in the US.

Thanks!
Bob

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1 year 2 months ago #346128 by Fanti
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Hello Bob
here you will find documents that may help you

sternzeit-107.de/de/slpedia/107sl-wsm

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1 year 2 months ago #346130 by btrautman
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Stefan, Thank you for this link. I see that this user interface was developed for the star link site for public. I have used the raw interface at star link and always was perplexed why there interface was so disjointed... This interface is SO much more useful to use!

I still did not find any information on what the torque spec and/or workshop procedure regarding the "WHEEL BEARING TO COUPLED TRANSVERSE CONTROL ARM NUT"

I may go begging to my local MB dealer and see if they will give me the information. The parts Department knows me very well..................................

Again, thank you for this interface. I will certainly use it in the future.

Thanks!
Bob
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1 year 2 months ago #346131 by Fanti

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1 year 2 months ago #346146 by btrautman
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Stefan, thank you for sending this. This is excellent information for the front end. I can't seem to find similar information for the rear end......

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Bob

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1 year 2 months ago #346147 by M119_Fan
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I've not checked it, but maybe you can find something there? www.tonk.ca/misc/index.html (Body/Chassis 1987 pdf)

Viele Grüße,
Michael
Disclaimer: Das meiste, was ich schreibe, ist "leider nicht ganz richtig".

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1 year 2 months ago #346152 by Obelix116
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...Bob, it would be very nice if you could sign your Threads with your first name like everyone does it here, i`m too lazy to look it up everytime !

Gruß
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1 year 2 months ago #346156 by btrautman
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Yes, I've checked there as well. No information.

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Bob

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1 year 2 months ago #346157 by btrautman
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Of Course!

Bob

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1 year 2 months ago - 1 year 2 months ago #346161 by Neckartaler
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Bob,

you can enter your given name in your profile so you "can not forget" your signatur in future.

Best regards

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1 year 2 months ago #346164 by Fanti
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Hello Bob
I can't open the pictures, don't know exactly what you are looking for, also because of the translation

www.startekinfo.com/service/download-doc...GRAM/Chassis/B35.pdf

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1 year 2 months ago - 1 year 2 months ago #346166 by btrautman
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I am attaching a picture of EPC diagram.  The nut is item 41 that I need the torque spec on.  It is the caliper support spindle nut on the rear.

I'm not sure why the photo links would not open for you.  They are google photo links.

Also, I am getting different torque specs for the CV axle bolts to Differential side flanges.  Please confirm torque for these bolts.

There is also a rear differential bolt that is a double spline mushroom shape bolt that I can't find torque specs for either.

 

Thanks!
Bob
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1 year 2 months ago #346174 by beenie
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Ja Herr Lehrer, gern, Herr Lehrer

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1 year 2 months ago #346176 by btrautman
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I’m confused by your response.  

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1 year 2 months ago #346178 by Ragetti
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Bitte immer freundlich bleiben

 

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1 year 2 months ago #346182 by btrautman
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Bitte immer freundlich bleiben

Rolf,  Hope all is well!  You may not remember me but I purchased one of your interior temperature sensors for my 560SL.  I seem to recall the beach front property near you :)  

I am having a difficult time getting the information I asked about here.  I don't just want to guess on the reassembly.  Again hope you are well!
 

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Bob

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1 year 2 months ago #346192 by Quickbiker2012
Hi Bob,

I found the requested information in the german workshop manual in chapter 35-035.

The nut has item nbr. 97, see attached screensots. There seems to be a special procedere not just a torque value.

Hope this helps,
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1 year 2 months ago - 1 year 2 months ago #346200 by btrautman
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Ralf,

thank you so much! I will share this with my MB enthusiast friends! What manual did you find this information in? Is there an American version? I purchased a two volume 107 MB chassis set and this information was not in it.  I would like to purchase a copy of that manual if I can find it. 
May I ask one more favor from you?  What are the torque specs for the CV axle bolts to differential side flanges.  I am getting different numbers.

Again, thank you!

Thanks!
Bob
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