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5 years 10 months ago #261517 by Racediagnostics
I spent a few hours in the garage today,

The first job was to drain the PS pump.

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Then remove the PS oil cooler, I had to disconnect the lower valance to get it out. I am removing more than would be needed just to remove the engine as I plan to paint the engine bay.

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Both removed.

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Then battery and tray removed to give access to the top of the exhaust.

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This spanner is good for the right manifold.

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H pipe and damper removed.

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Does anyone know the optimal height to raise the front of the car to make the engine and transmission removal trouble free?

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Jim

1979 450SL - 2008 911 Turbo
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #261519 by Rudiger
Jim, how much headroom do you have? Are you taking engine and transmission simultaneously out? Do you have a load leveler? Do you take the hood, bonnet, off?
www.harborfreight.com/2-ton-capacity-hea...psugg_q=engine+hoist
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #261524 by Racediagnostics
The headroom is 2.6m, the engine and transmission will come out together, and yes I have a load leveler. I had planned to remove the bonnet until I saw this picture.

www.benzworld.org/threads/removing-the-e...read-2269986&slide=0

I have removed the old engine ten years ago but don't remember exactly how high I raised it but remember I had a bit of trouble with the transmission hitting the floor of the garage.

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There must be an optimal height, enough to clear the transmission but not too high for the hoist.

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Jim

1979 450SL - 2008 911 Turbo
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5 years 10 months ago #261529 by Stuntman Mike
Hi Jim,

did you consider taking the motor out from the bottom?

When I removed the engine from my 968CS it figured out that it was much more comfortable to dismantle the front suspension and lower the motor to the ground. Maybe this is also an option for the 107?

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5 years 10 months ago #261557 by Rudiger
Jorg, daran hatte ich auch gestern gedacht durch die begrenzte hohe. Wie wurde das im Werk gemacht? Ich glaube der Motor ist an den cylinderkopfen zu breit um den nach unten auszubauen
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #261564 by Racediagnostics
Lifting the body off of the engine and subframe was also my preference, I have asked around but not found anyone who has actually done this to give advice.

One problem that would need to be solved is to first remove the steering box which is in the way, and it is much easier to remove the steering box once the engine is out of the car.

In the end neither way is easy, and since I have done it once before, perhaps better to stick with the method that worked last time.

Grand Prix now finished so back out to the car.

Cheers
Jim

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5 years 10 months ago #261576 by Chromix

Racediagnostics wrote: I purchased this engine stand ..... Rather than this one ..... After watching this video .....

I wouldn't blame the engine stand for what happened. I mean, lifting up one leg of the engine stand while the engine is already resting on it ("It's no weight on the crane right now!"), was not a really good idea of "EricTheCarGuy".

Regards, Lutz

Nimm Dir jeden Tag die Zeit, still zu sitzen und auf die Dinge zu lauschen.
Achte auf die Melodie des Lebens, die in Dir schwingt.
Buddha

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5 years 10 months ago #261580 by wusel-53

Rudiger wrote: Jim, to overhaul an engine is pretty straight forward. Basically intake manifold, heads and block. Get the specs and tolerances and you are good. WIS should be in eye side. :)

Remember wisely-53 Thorsten overhauled a transmission. He is a pencil pusher at the fed. Government. WIS will help.
Btw, I wouldn’t touch a damn automatic transmission with a 10 foot pole
Rudiger


Thanks Rudiger for "pencil-puscher" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Viele Grüße

Thorsten

Man lernt nie aus
380SL (US-Version, Bj.84), Eura-Wohnmobil und ein ebike :-)
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5 years 10 months ago #261583 by Rudiger

wusel-53 wrote:

Rudiger wrote: Jim, to overhaul an engine is pretty straight forward. Basically intake manifold, heads and block. Get the specs and tolerances and you are good. WIS should be in eye side. :)

Remember wisely-53 Thorsten overhauled a transmission. He is a pencil pusher at the fed. Government. WIS will help.
Btw, I wouldn’t touch a damn automatic transmission with a 10 foot pole
Rudiger


Thanks Rudiger for "pencil-puscher" :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Thorsten, You are very welcome . :)
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5 years 10 months ago #261585 by Racediagnostics
I had been hoping to leave the middle and back exhaust box in place, but realised today that the prop shaft nut is above the middle box and heat shield. I will have to rethink that plan, perhaps with a bit of leverage I may still be able to get to it. Has anyone else managed with the middle box in place?

Anyway today, lots more disassembly.

Steering drag link ball joint removed at one side to help with the clearance for the transmission.

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Earth strap disconnected.

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Heat shields out and right downpipe, the left downpipe is in a restricted place and does not want to come out yet.

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Engine mount bolts next.

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Then the engine dampers.

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Throttle linkage, oil pressure gauge and coolant hoses disconnected.

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Brake booster vac line.

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Wiring harness at the front and rear disconnected.

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I remember when I put this engine in ten years ago that the crane chains came close to the fuel injector pipes so I decided to remove it first as its only held on by four nuts.

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Jim

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5 years 10 months ago #261587 by Racediagnostics
I have a couple of other questions, first, should there be a rubber boot around the throttle lever in the bulkhead here?

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And second, can the front pully be removed from the harmonic balancer by removing these smaller bolts? I was surprised to see that one was missing.

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #261640 by Marcel
Hi Jim,

around the lever there is a rubber boot, see on my 1986 300 SL

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Gruß Marcel
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5 years 10 months ago #261642 by Racediagnostics
Thanks Marcel, yours looks the same as mine so puts my mind at rest, I thought perhaps there should also have been a second boot on the outer skin of the bulkhead.

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Jim

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #261669 by Thomas2509
Hello Jim,

today I have removed my M110 (280SL) together with the transmission. Like you I did the whole work in my garage and I had no problems with the height. Probably I think that the M110 engine is a little longer than yours.

Greetings Thomas
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Es grüßt herzlich
Thomas
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #261671 by Racediagnostics
Day 4, I moved on to the transmission today. Drained the fluid.

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Released the gear linkage.

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Removed the front part of the cradle.

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Kick-down wire removed.

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Remainder of cradle removed.

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Speedometer cable and PNDR switch harness released.

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Prop-shaft coupling released.

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For the prop-shaft spline coupling.

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Finally the torque converter was drained.

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That's all the prep work now almost complete.

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Jim

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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #261673 by Racediagnostics
A few more things.

Protection for the radiator support.

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Make your bets now, will the engine come out with the bonnet on or not?

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It's up as far as I dare.

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Jim

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5 years 10 months ago #261678 by Chromix
Uhh, I would be wary! Better ask your wife to help you to take the bonnet off.
At least I would try to hold it from the ceiling. Otherwise, if you interfere with one of the supports while taking the engine out, bad things could happen to it.

Regards, Lutz

Nimm Dir jeden Tag die Zeit, still zu sitzen und auf die Dinge zu lauschen.
Achte auf die Melodie des Lebens, die in Dir schwingt.
Buddha
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5 years 10 months ago #261679 by Racediagnostics
Good suggestion, I will take the air intake vents off so I can go a bit more vertical and also support the bonnet from the ceiling.

Taking the bonnet off with my wife would be a high risk, it is so easy to scratch or dent a wing etc. If she struggles with the weight.

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Jim

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5 years 10 months ago #261680 by Rudiger
Jim, do you have plenty of room in front? What’s your intended, swing engine and transmission side ways?
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5 years 10 months ago #261681 by Thomas2509
Jim, I really suggest to put off the bonnet.
It is easy to remove and you need the space.
And take a additional look to the transmission. I forgot one wiring harness connection at the transmission and damaged the connector.
Best regards Thomas

Es grüßt herzlich
Thomas

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